Friday, January 28, 2011

Mentions of Magnitude

These are some of my favorite quotes from Mansfield Park. I had quite a few this time :)


But there certainly are not so many men of large fortune in the world, as there are pretty women to deserve them.

Their vanity was in such good order, that they seemed to be quite free from it, and gave themselves no airs; while the praises attending such behavior secured, and brought round by their aunt, served to strengthened them in believing they had no faults.

The never failing hope of his arrival was worth much.

Lady Bertram holding exercise to be as unnecessary for everybody as it was unpleasant to herself; and Mrs. Norris, who was walking all day, thinking everybody out to walk as much.

Fanny must have a horse. (As Edmund said this, we now know he was a man with a good taste in gifts...)

No other attempt made at secrecy, than Mrs. Norris's talking of it everywhere as a matter not to be talked of at present.

"I do not pretend to set people right, but I do see that they are often wrong."
Those who are showing the world what female manners should be," said Mr. Bertram gallantly, "are doing a great deal to set them right."

"Cut down an avenue! What a pity! Does not it make you think of Cowper? 'Ye fallen avenues, once more I mourn your fate unmerited.'" (one of my favorites!)

"I shall be most happy to play to you both," said Miss Crawford; "at least, as long as you can like to listen; probably much longer, for I dearly love music myself, and where the natural taste is equal, the player must always be best off, for she is gratified in more ways than one."

This was a most unjust reflection, but Fanny could allow for it, and let it pass; Julia was vexed, and her temper was hasty, but she felt that it would not last.

"I think the man who could often quarrel with Fanny," said Edmund affectionately, "must be beyond the reach of any sermons."

"Here's harmony!" said she, "Here's repose! Here's what may leave all painting and all music behind, and what poetry only can attempt to describe. Here's what may tranquillize every care, and lift the heart to rapture!"

"It is a great while since we have had any star-gazing." (This quote comes from one of my favorite parts in the book, which I also found very sad.)

You know how I always feel for the horses.

"But then I am unlike other people I dare say."
"Why should you dare say that? (smiling) Do you want to be told that you are only unlike other people in being more wise and discreet?"

"You will think me rhapsodizing; but when I am out of doors...I am very apt to get into this sort of wondering strain."

"To me, the sound of Mr. Bertram is so cold and nothing-meaning - so entirely without warmth or character! - It just stands for a gentleman, and that's all. But there is nobleness in the name of Edmund. It is a name of heroism and renown - of kings, princes, and knights; and seems to breathe the spirit of chivalry and warm affections." (Mmn, do we see a bit of Marianne here in quiet Fanny?)

I have no pleasure in the world superior to that of contributing to yours. (Amazing.)

To her, the hand-writing itself, independent of anything it may convey, is a blessedness. Never were such characters cut by any other human being, as Edmund's commonest hand-writing gave! This specimen, written in haste as it was, had not a fault; and there was a felicity in the flow of the first four words, in the arrangement of "My very dear Fanny," which she could have looked at for ever. (I agree here. Handwriting is so special!)

"Are they musical?
"I do not know. I never heard."
"That is the first question, you know, which every woman who plays herself is sure to ask about another." (Ah, and I do NOT like Mary Crawford, but her quotes on music still make me smile, however she meant them :) )

If she did not need counsel, she must need to comfort of communication.

We have all a better guide in ourselves, if we would attend to it, than any other person can be.


Skyeler

Tuesday, January 25, 2011

Meandering through Mansfield Park

The holidays being over, we got back into the swing of Conversations with Jane with Mansfield Park. Mansfield Park is one of Jane Austen's longer books and it certainly took most of us quite a while to finish it. We actually pushed back a CwJ meeting a week and still Skyeler and I were up late finishing it Thursday and Elizabeth finished right before we started Friday (she had technical difficulties). We met for tea at Sharon's minus Hadley and Sarah. After some yummy shortbread cookies, we got settled in for our book discussion. I had an activity planned, however due to some confusion, we decided to do it the next week. This turned out to be just fine as there was much discussion about the book.

I have been so pleased with the insights the girls continually come up with. Each has their own opinion and voice and no trouble expressing it. :) The differing opinions open up different possibilities for us all to consider, whether we end up agreeing or not. I had thought that Sense and Sensibility would be our most debated book (and it still holds that honor), however, Mansfield Park ran a close second thanks to the character of Fanny Price. Some say that Fanny Price of Mansfield Park is one of Austen's most un-heroine like heroines. It is said that she has not the wit of an Elizabeth Bennett or the passion of a Marianne Dashwood. At first glance it certainly seems that way. The novel seemingly plodded along (for me) for sixteen chapters before we even really got around to Fanny. Fanny is never thought of, unless for some menial task another does not want to do. She doesn't stand up for herself and is physically weak. Calleigh disliked her a great deal (as you will see in her blog project). Skyeler found an Austen character that she identified with maybe more than Marianne. Elizabeth and Tori fell somewhere in between.

I must confess that I thought Northanger Abbey was my least favorite Austen novel. As I read Mansfield Park for the second time, I realized that it had claimed that title (for now). The book seemed to go on forever! I was disgusted with Edmund, found myself actually feeling sorry for Henry Crawford (how could I?!), and had mixed feelings about Fanny. After our meeting, however, I realized that I took more notes on Mansfield Park than any of the other novels to date. Jane Austen's views on the church are widely spoken of by characters in this novel and I found them to be oddly still applicable to today. Mrs. Norris, Fanny's aunt, was one of the most despicable characters (I am wondering if Filch's cat, Mrs. Norris, is named after this character) and I found myself trying to count her despicable moments. They were too numerous and I gave up LOL! I found moments where Fanny could rival Marianne's passion and a little of Catherine's imagination. And after having numerous discussions with my daughter about Fanny's good qualities, I have a slightly different appreciation of the book now than when I finished it.

As I have already rambled on, I will go ahead and close for now. If I find the time, I will post some of my numerous quotes from Mansfield Park in a separate post. Enjoy the blog projects to come. As usual, the girls were very creative!

Skyeler, Tori, Elizabeth, and Calleigh having tea.


The girls working on a short activity: at what point did various characters in Mansfield Park really see Fanny for who she was.

Angel

Thursday, January 20, 2011

Literary Sections of Lady Susan

I had a couple favorite quotes from Lady Susan that I wanted to post here before we post our Mansfield Park projects.

Where there is a disposition to dislike, a motive will never be wanting.

I could have poisoned him! I made the best of it, however.

Skyeler

Thursday, January 6, 2011

A Christmas Break

During the month of December, Conversations with Jane took a small break from Jane Austen's main novels to read one of her smaller works. Lady Susan was a nice break and though none of us liked the character Lady Susan herself, I think we all enjoyed the book. It was a short novel written in letter form. That threw me off a bit at first, but the girls didn't seem to have a problem keeping everyone straight. (That doesn't mean they are smarter than me, no way LOL)! Lady Susan was a self seeking, lying, money hungry, nasty piece of work and a horrid mother to boot! It was different reading a story where the main character of the novel was NOT someone you could like. Honestly, you just wanted to wring her neck :) There was no syllabus, no study notes, we just read and discussed it. And it was a great discussion at that. We touched on a wide range of topics. After our discussion, we also talked about how we have liked the Austen novels we have read so far. Everyone's list looked a little different. We also spent some time just having fun with a couple games I found online. Who knew that girls got so competitive when Sour Patch Kid and Spree candy canes were on the line. Yikes!! There were no blog projects assigned for December. In January we will visit Mansfield Park.

The girls enjoying tea and yummies at Robin's house.

The first of the games we played. A Jane Austen word search I found here.

Like I said, the first one done won a candy cane. Look at the concentration :)


The word search was pretty easy compared to the next game.

I found a couple Jane Austen crossword puzzles online here. There were some pretty tough questions and the girls had to get their Sense and Sensibility books out and really search for the answers LOL!

The girls were cracking me up. I heard, "we need to move, they are listening to our answers!" and "no were NOT! and "my Kindle has a search engine, can I use that?!" LOL! The puzzle turned out to be really hard and after working on it for a while I told them that they only had 15 more minutes. All six shouted "NO! We need more time!" I finally did put a stop to it and then there was an argument, um discussion about who won. Maybe no more games for candy canes :)

Angel